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Improving Success at Step 5: VE Guide to ORS in Live Hearings – 2026 Spring National Conference – Track II (Presented by National Organization of Social Security Claimants’ Representatives)

2026-04-21 14:00:00

1.25 hours

2026-04-21 14:00:00

1.25 Credits

Master ORS data and Workscape Analytics to challenge vocational expert testimony at Step 5—reduce job estimates using your client’s medical evidence and cross-examine with precision in real time.

2026-04-21 14:00:00

1.25 hours

Master ORS data and Workscape Analytics to challenge vocational expert testimony at Step 5—reduce job estimates using your client’s medical evidence and cross-examine with precision in real time.

2026-04-21 14:00:00

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Key topics that will be covered

What will you learn

Attorneys will learn how ORS medical factors reduce job estimates and how Workscape Analytics performs those calculations instantly at live hearings.

What will you gain

Attorneys gain the ability to cross-examine vocational experts, validate calculations, and introduce ORS factors from medical evidence at Step5.

ORS Origins
ORS is commissioned by SSA and maintained by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Medical Factors
Each medical factor in ORS is a percentage that reduces job numbers.
Job Estimates
Vocational experts use ORS to estimate job numbers at Step 5.
Workscape Software
Workscape Analytics performs ORS calculations live at hearings in seconds.
Cross-Examination
Attorneys can cross-examine vocational experts with data at their fingertips.
Medical Evidence
Attorneys can introduce ORS factors drawn directly from client medical evidence.

What will you learn

Attorneys will learn how ORS medical factors reduce job estimates and how Workscape Analytics performs those calculations instantly at live hearings.

What will you gain

Attorneys gain the ability to cross-examine vocational experts, validate calculations, and introduce ORS factors from medical evidence at Step5.

Agenda

SESSION 1

Improving Success at Step 5: VE Guide to ORS in Live Hearings

clock 2:00 pm - 3:00 pm EST

Improving Success at Step 5: VE Guide to ORS in Live Hearings

John Yent

SSA Office of Hearings Operations

Attorneys gain real-time access to ORS-powered job estimates using Workscape Analytics, enabling instant cross-examination of vocational experts at Step 5 by applying medical evidence to reduce the vocational universe during live hearings.

Eligible for up to 1 CLE Credit Hour

This session was originally submitted for CLE as a live, in-person presentation and a live webcast for the 2026 Spring National Conference and may be eligible for self-study credit. Each state handles self-study credit differently; for questions, please consult your State Bar Association.

Recorded Tuesday, April 21, 2026.

John Yent

SSA Office of Hearings Operations

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Joe Ervin

The Law Firm for Truck Safety, LLP
A Partner at The Law Firm for Truck Safety. He focuses exclusively on cases involving commercial motor vehicle crashes and wrongful death. Joe also holds a valid class “A” commercial driver’s license with endorsements for double/triple trailers and tankers.

Education & Credentials

A 2013 graduate of the Gerry Spence Trial Lawyers College in Dubois, Wyoming, Joe is rated AV Preeminent™ by Martindale-Hubbell — the highest peer rating for exceptional legal ability and ethics. He is among the first nine attorneys nationwide to earn board certification in Truck Accident Law from the National Board of Trial Advocacy.

Recognition & Leadership

Joe received the Roadway Safety Award from the American Association for Justice (AAJ) for his commitment to improving highway safety.
 He currently serves as Co-Chair of the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys (ATAA) Safety Committee, advocating for higher safety standards across the trucking industry.

Professional Involvement

Joe serves on the faculty of the AAJ Advanced Trial Advocacy College: Litigating Truck Collision Cases (2015 & 2024).
 He is an active member of AAJ’s Trucking Litigation Group and sits on the Board of Regents for the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys.

Experience

Joe frequently consults and co-counsels on complex commercial truck cases. His proven track record includes numerous successful trials against motor carriers and truck leasing companies — delivering justice for victims of commercial vehicle accidents.

Kevin Foley

Reminger Co
A Partner at The Law Firm for Truck Safety. He focuses exclusively on cases involving commercial motor vehicle crashes and wrongful death. Joe also holds a valid class “A” commercial driver’s license with endorsements for double/triple trailers and tankers.

Education & Credentials

A 2013 graduate of the Gerry Spence Trial Lawyers College in Dubois, Wyoming, Joe is rated AV Preeminent™ by Martindale-Hubbell — the highest peer rating for exceptional legal ability and ethics. He is among the first nine attorneys nationwide to earn board certification in Truck Accident Law from the National Board of Trial Advocacy.

Recognition & Leadership

Joe received the Roadway Safety Award from the American Association for Justice (AAJ) for his commitment to improving highway safety.
 He currently serves as Co-Chair of the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys (ATAA) Safety Committee, advocating for higher safety standards across the trucking industry.

Professional Involvement

Joe serves on the faculty of the AAJ Advanced Trial Advocacy College: Litigating Truck Collision Cases (2015 & 2024).
 He is an active member of AAJ’s Trucking Litigation Group and sits on the Board of Regents for the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys.

Experience

Joe frequently consults and co-counsels on complex commercial truck cases. His proven track record includes numerous successful trials against motor carriers and truck leasing companies — delivering justice for victims of commercial vehicle accidents.

Grant H. Lawson

The Law Firm for Truck Safety, LLP
A Partner at The Law Firm for Truck Safety. He focuses exclusively on cases involving commercial motor vehicle crashes and wrongful death. Joe also holds a valid class “A” commercial driver’s license with endorsements for double/triple trailers and tankers.

Education & Credentials

A 2013 graduate of the Gerry Spence Trial Lawyers College in Dubois, Wyoming, Joe is rated AV Preeminent™ by Martindale-Hubbell — the highest peer rating for exceptional legal ability and ethics. He is among the first nine attorneys nationwide to earn board certification in Truck Accident Law from the National Board of Trial Advocacy.

Recognition & Leadership

Joe received the Roadway Safety Award from the American Association for Justice (AAJ) for his commitment to improving highway safety.
 He currently serves as Co-Chair of the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys (ATAA) Safety Committee, advocating for higher safety standards across the trucking industry.

Professional Involvement

Joe serves on the faculty of the AAJ Advanced Trial Advocacy College: Litigating Truck Collision Cases (2015 & 2024).
 He is an active member of AAJ’s Trucking Litigation Group and sits on the Board of Regents for the Academy of Truck Accident Attorneys.

Experience

Joe frequently consults and co-counsels on complex commercial truck cases. His proven track record includes numerous successful trials against motor carriers and truck leasing companies — delivering justice for victims of commercial vehicle accidents.

John Yent

SSA Office of Hearings Operations

John Yent

SSA Office of Hearings Operations

John Yent is a rehabilitation counselor, vocational expert, and disability services entrepreneur with nearly four decades of experience in the disability rehabilitation industry. He has been in private practice since 2003 and serves as a Vocational Expert contractor for the SSA Office of Hearings Operations, having testified in more than 10,000 disability hearings since 1997. In 2017, he founded Recovery to Work Disability Services, a national Employment Network under SSA’s Ticket to Work program, and in 2024 co-founded. WorkscapeAnalytics.com, a vocational software company. He is a co-founder of the Social Security Vocational Expert Section of the International Association of Rehabilitation Professionals (IARP) and has presented at national conferences including IARP, ABVE, the Louisiana State Bar Association, the American Association for Justice, the Association of Administrative Law Judges, and NOSSCR.

Education & Credentials

John holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology, Sociology, and Cultural Anthropology from the University of California, Santa Barbara, and a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology from La Jolla University. He holds multiple professional certifications, including Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC), Diplomate of the American Board of Disability Analysts (ABDA), and Community Partner Work Incentives Counselor (CPWIC), the latter reflecting his specialized training in Social Security Administration disability benefits and work incentives advising. His credentials span rehabilitation counseling, disability analysis, and SSA benefits planning, providing a multidisciplinary foundation for his work as a vocational expert and disability services leader.

Recognition & Leadership

John is one of the co-founders of the Social Security Vocational Expert Section of the International Association of Rehabilitation Professionals (IARP) and has served as Section Board Member and Past Section Chair, a leadership contribution that has helped shape the professional standards and community for vocational experts practicing before the SSA. His founding of Recovery to Work Disability Services in 2017 and co-founding of WorkscapeAnalytics.com in 2024 reflect an entrepreneurial career defined by building institutions that advance the disability rehabilitation and vocational expert fields. He has been a featured speaker at IARP, the American Board of Vocational Experts, the Louisiana State Bar Association, the American Association for Justice, the Association of Administrative Law Judges, and NOSSCR.

Professional Involvement

John's professional involvement spans vocational expert testimony, Employment Network leadership, software development, and national conference speaking. As Executive Director of Recovery To Work Disability Services, a national Ticket to Work Employment Network, he helps Social Security disability beneficiaries pursue employment and self-sufficiency. Through WorkscapeAnalytics.com, co-founded in 2024, he is advancing the use of technology and labor market data, including the Occupational Requirements Survey (ORS) and Occupational Employment and Wage Survey (OEWS) to improve vocational analysis in disability adjudication. He has also presented an ORS webinar series for NOSSCR, extending his expertise to claimants' representatives nationwide.

Experience

John Yent's career in disability rehabilitation began in 1986, and he has been in private practice since 2003. Since 1997, he has served as a Vocational Expert contractor for the SSA Office of Hearings Operations, accumulating testimony in more than 10,000 disability hearings, an extraordinary volume that reflects both the longevity and the intensity of his engagement with the Social Security adjudication system. His expertise in the Occupational Requirements Survey and Occupational Employment and Wage Survey positions him at the forefront of the evolving use of labor market data in SSA disability determinations. In 2017, he founded Recovery To Work Disability Services to extend his impact into the Ticket to Workspace, and in 2024 co-founded WorkscapeAnalytics.com to bring vocational software tools to practitioners across the field. His leadership in founding the IARP Social Security Vocational Expert Section further cements his legacy as a builder and shaper of the vocational expert profession.

John Yent

SSA Office of Hearings Operations

John Yent is a rehabilitation counselor, vocational expert, and disability services entrepreneur with nearly four decades of experience in the disability rehabilitation industry. He has been in private practice since 2003 and serves as a Vocational Expert contractor for the SSA Office of Hearings Operations, having testified in more than 10,000 disability hearings since 1997. In 2017, he founded Recovery to Work Disability Services, a national Employment Network under SSA’s Ticket to Work program, and in 2024 co-founded. WorkscapeAnalytics.com, a vocational software company. He is a co-founder of the Social Security Vocational Expert Section of the International Association of Rehabilitation Professionals (IARP) and has presented at national conferences including IARP, ABVE, the Louisiana State Bar Association, the American Association for Justice, the Association of Administrative Law Judges, and NOSSCR.

Education & Credentials

John holds a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology, Sociology, and Cultural Anthropology from the University of California, Santa Barbara, and a Master of Arts in Counseling Psychology from La Jolla University. He holds multiple professional certifications, including Certified Rehabilitation Counselor (CRC), Diplomate of the American Board of Disability Analysts (ABDA), and Community Partner Work Incentives Counselor (CPWIC), the latter reflecting his specialized training in Social Security Administration disability benefits and work incentives advising. His credentials span rehabilitation counseling, disability analysis, and SSA benefits planning, providing a multidisciplinary foundation for his work as a vocational expert and disability services leader.

Recognition & Leadership

John is one of the co-founders of the Social Security Vocational Expert Section of the International Association of Rehabilitation Professionals (IARP) and has served as Section Board Member and Past Section Chair, a leadership contribution that has helped shape the professional standards and community for vocational experts practicing before the SSA. His founding of Recovery to Work Disability Services in 2017 and co-founding of WorkscapeAnalytics.com in 2024 reflect an entrepreneurial career defined by building institutions that advance the disability rehabilitation and vocational expert fields. He has been a featured speaker at IARP, the American Board of Vocational Experts, the Louisiana State Bar Association, the American Association for Justice, the Association of Administrative Law Judges, and NOSSCR.

Professional Involvement

John's professional involvement spans vocational expert testimony, Employment Network leadership, software development, and national conference speaking. As Executive Director of Recovery To Work Disability Services, a national Ticket to Work Employment Network, he helps Social Security disability beneficiaries pursue employment and self-sufficiency. Through WorkscapeAnalytics.com, co-founded in 2024, he is advancing the use of technology and labor market data, including the Occupational Requirements Survey (ORS) and Occupational Employment and Wage Survey (OEWS) to improve vocational analysis in disability adjudication. He has also presented an ORS webinar series for NOSSCR, extending his expertise to claimants' representatives nationwide.

Experience

John Yent's career in disability rehabilitation began in 1986, and he has been in private practice since 2003. Since 1997, he has served as a Vocational Expert contractor for the SSA Office of Hearings Operations, accumulating testimony in more than 10,000 disability hearings, an extraordinary volume that reflects both the longevity and the intensity of his engagement with the Social Security adjudication system. His expertise in the Occupational Requirements Survey and Occupational Employment and Wage Survey positions him at the forefront of the evolving use of labor market data in SSA disability determinations. In 2017, he founded Recovery To Work Disability Services to extend his impact into the Ticket to Workspace, and in 2024 co-founded WorkscapeAnalytics.com to bring vocational software tools to practitioners across the field. His leadership in founding the IARP Social Security Vocational Expert Section further cements his legacy as a builder and shaper of the vocational expert profession.

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Mastering ORS data and vocational expert cross-examination directly determines whether attorneys can successfully challenge Step 5 denials and secure benefits for disabled clients.
62%
Of initial SSDI applications were denied in FY 2024, making Step 5 vocational challenges critical to winning on appeal.
3.6%
Of U.S. jobs are unskilled and sedentary per ORS data — far below the 10% historically assumed — giving attorneys powerful grounds to shrink the VE’s vocational universe.
3x
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46%
Is the maximum variance in ALJ allowance rates for identical claims depending on the assigned judge, making attorney preparation and VE strategy essential.

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