The Vocational Expert’s Perspective (Presented by National Organization of Social Security Claimants’ Representatives)

Jesse Ogren
Jesse Ogren | Wisconsin Return to Work Center

Jesse Ogren has experience in professional vocational services including forensic services for personal injury, divorce, FELA, workers compensation, and ADA related cases. He has performed vocational evaluation, case management, job analysis, and job placement with agencies like the States of Arizona, Wisconsin and Minnesota vocational rehabilitation departments, the Veterans Administration vocational rehabilitation department, and the federal government.

On-Demand: November 7, 2025

1 hour CLE

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Program Summary

In “The VE’s Perspective,” Jesse Ogren offered an in-depth look into the complex and multifaceted role of the Vocational Expert (VE) within the context of forensic and rehabilitation services. Drawing on his extensive experience across state and federal vocational rehabilitation systems—including work with the Veterans Administration and the Departments of Vocational Rehabilitation in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Minnesota—Mr. Ogren shared valuable insights into how VEs assess employability, labor market factors, and functional capacities in a range of cases, from personal injury and workers’ compensation to ADA and divorce proceedings.

Mr. Ogren discussed the practical realities of providing expert testimony, conducting vocational evaluations, and collaborating with attorneys and rehabilitation professionals to ensure fair and objective outcomes. Attendees gained a clearer understanding of how vocational experts form their opinions, the professional standards that guide their work, and the evolving challenges in the field as it intersects with both medical and legal systems.

With his background as a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor, Licensed Professional Counselor, and Forensic Vocational Evaluator, Mr. Ogren brought both technical expertise and real-world perspective to the session—highlighting the importance of ethical practice, clear communication, and evidence-based methodology in vocational assessment.

Key topics to be discussed:

  • How Vocational Experts Form Opinions and Assess Employability
  • Expert Testimony, Evaluations, and Collaboration in Forensic/rehabilitation Contexts
  • Professional Standards, Ethical Practice, and Evidence-Based Vocational Methodology

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Speakers

Jesse Ogren | Wisconsin Return to Work Center

Jesse Ogren has experience in professional vocational services including forensic services for personal injury, divorce, FELA, workers compensation, and ADA related cases. He has performed vocational evaluation, case management, job analysis, and job placement with agencies like the States of Arizona, Wisconsin and Minnesota vocational rehabilitation departments, the Veterans Administration vocational rehabilitation department, and the federal government. He has served on the counseling board for IARP, he has been certified as a Forensic Vocational Evaluator with the A-R-E-A Organization, and he has been licensed as a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and Licensed Professional Counselor.

Mr. Ogren came to the Wisconsin Return to Work Center in 2008 after starting his career in Phoenix, Arizona at the Rehabilitation Specialists Group. He brought his knowledge of public rehabilitation programs to the company and continued working in that area. Although the office resides in Minnesota, the company maintains the name Wisconsin Return to Work Center because of its founding in 1992, in Centuria, Wisconsin. Wisconsin is viewed as historically important in the development of vocational rehabilitation programs nationwide, and Mr. Ogren received his training in the field at the University of Wisconsin Stout as a master’s level vocational rehabilitation counselor and evaluator.

Agenda

I. How Vocational Experts Form Opinions and Assess Employability | 12:45pm – 1:05pm

II. Expert Testimony, Evaluations, and Collaboration in Forensic/rehabilitation Contexts | 1:05pm – 1:25pm

III. Professional Standards, Ethical Practice, and Evidence-Based Vocational Methodology | 1:25pm – 1:45pm

Credits

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1 General

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1 General

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1 General

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1 General

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1 General

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1 Substantive

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