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Ethical Dilemma: Client Consent Does Not Determine Reasonableness of Fees

Professional fee reasonableness in bankruptcy: examining court oversight, structural barriers to fee challenges, and data-driven review methods.

2025-10-24 11:30:00

1.5 hours

Program Details

2025-10-24 11:30:00

Program Details

2025-10-24 11:30:00

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2025-10-24 11:30:00

1.5 hours

Course Overview

Navigating Professional Fee Reasonableness in Bankruptcy

2025-10-24 11:30:00

Participants will learn how courts evaluate professional fee reasonableness when compensation comes from bankruptcy estates rather than clients. This knowledge enables practitioners to improve billing practices and navigate fee examination processes effectively.

Format

CLE Credit

1.5h CLE Credits

Level

Intermediate

Length

1.5

Key topics that will be covered

01
Client Consent
Client consent does not override unreasonable fees when third parties bear costs.
02
Structural Barriers
Repeat player dynamics discourage estate-paid professionals from objecting to each other’s fees.
03
Fee Examination
Fee examiners evaluate whether actions were reasonable and work was done efficiently.
04
Data Analysis
Algorithms benchmark tasks against comparable data to identify appropriate staffing and timing.
05
AI Impact
Artificial intelligence tools may make failing to use technology itself unreasonable.
06
Case Efficiency
The profession is evolving toward faster case processing and pre-negotiated arrangements.

Program schedule

clock 11:30 am - 12:00 pm EST

Client Consent vs. Court Oversight in Bankruptcy Fees

This session examines why client approval alone cannot determine fee reasonableness when compensation flows from the bankruptcy estate rather than the client’s pocket. Participants will explore how ABA Model Rule 1.5 and Section 330 of the Bankruptcy Code establish the framework for judicial review, and how emerging AI tools are reshaping the reasonableness calculus.

Nancy B. RapoportNancy B. Rapoport
Robert J. KeachRobert J. Keach
Joseph R. Tiano, JrJoseph R. Tiano, Jr
clock 12:00 pm - 12:30 pm EST

Structural Barriers to Professional Fee Challenges

This session analyzes the repeat-player dynamics and professional relationships that discourage estate-paid professionals from objecting to each other’s fee applications. Participants will examine how CRO arrangements, administrative insolvency trends, and lender concerns create structural disincentives that compromise the integrity of organic fee review processes.

Nancy B. RapoportNancy B. Rapoport
Robert J. KeachRobert J. Keach
Joseph R. Tiano, JrJoseph R. Tiano, Jr
clock 12:30 pm - 12:40 pm EST

Break

A short intermission allowing participants to refresh before the final session on data-driven fee examination.

Nancy B. RapoportNancy B. Rapoport
Robert J. KeachRobert J. Keach
Joseph R. Tiano, JrJoseph R. Tiano, Jr
clock 12:40 pm - 1:10 pm EST

Data-Driven Analysis and Fee Examiner Best Practices

This session explores how fee examiners use algorithmic analysis and benchmarking data to support courts in evaluating fee reasonableness under statutory requirements. Participants will learn about the two-component reasonableness test—whether actions were justified and whether work was performed efficiently—and why human judgment remains essential alongside data-driven tools.

Nancy B. RapoportNancy B. Rapoport
Robert J. KeachRobert J. Keach
Joseph R. Tiano, JrJoseph R. Tiano, Jr
Nancy B. Rapoport

Nancy B. Rapoport

William S. Boyd School of Law

Robert J. Keach

Robert J. Keach

Verrill Dana LLP

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Legal Decoder

Nancy B. Rapoport

Nancy B. Rapoport

William S. Boyd School of Law

Robert J. Keach

Robert J. Keach

Verrill Dana LLP

Experienced and widely respected bankruptcy practitioner focusing on bankruptcy, reorganization, and workouts, representing debtors, creditors, creditors’ committees, lessors, and third parties acquiring troubled companies.

Education & Credentials

Adjunct Professor (Cross-Border Insolvency; Business Bankruptcy) at Boston College Law School

Recognition & Leadership

Author of several articles on bankruptcy and creditors' rights appearing in the ABI Law Review, Commercial Law Journal, ABI Journal, and other publications; regularly appears as panelist on national bankruptcy, lender liability, and creditors' rights programs; designated expert witness on fee-related matters in several cases

Professional Involvement

Admitted to practice in state and federal courts in Maine and Massachusetts; admitted to First, Second, Seventh and Eighth Circuit Courts of Appeals and the Supreme Court of the United States

Experience

Practiced before bankruptcy courts in Districts of New Jersey, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Delaware, Northern District of California, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, and Southern and Eastern Districts of New York; served as court-appointed fee examiner; served as chapter 11 trustee; represented court-appointed receivers in matters before state courts including Delaware Chancery Court
Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Legal Decoder

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr., Esq. is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Legal Decoder, Inc. After practicing law for nearly 20 years, Joe founded Legal Decoder because he saw that clients and their law firms lacked the analytic tools and data to effectively price and manage the cost of legal services delivered by outside counsel. He set out to build an intelligent, data-driven technology company that would revolutionize the way legal services from outside counsel are priced and economically evaluated. Legal Decoder’s data analytics technology is used in law firms of all sizes from AmLaw 50 law firms to boutique firms, in Fortune 500 legal departments, and in major lawsuits and Chapter 11 bankruptcy cases, including PG&E, Purdue Pharma, Toys R Us, and Rite Aid, where legal fees are scrutinized.

Education & Credentials

Joe received his J.D. from the University of Pittsburgh School of Law in 1995 and graduated from Georgetown University in 1992 with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Business Administration.

Recognition & Leadership

Joe has been recognized as a 2026 LawDragon Top 100 AI & Legal Tech Advisor, a 2025 ACC Value Champion, and the TVPi 2025 Pricing Expert of the Year. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Law at the Arizona State University Sandra Day O'Connor Law School, currently teaching a course on Artificial Intelligence & Legal Ethics to 2L and 3L students.

Professional Involvement

Joe is a prolific author, having (co-)authored a forthcoming West Academic textbook on AI and legal ethics and eleven law review articles published in scholarly journals. He has written articles for numerous blogs and other online media on substantive legal issues and the legal industry and regularly presents at CLEs and other seminars and courses on topics ranging from artificial intelligence, LegalTech, and legal data analytics to legal ethics and legal malpractice.

Experience

Joe practiced law for nearly 20 years before founding Legal Decoder. He was previously a Partner at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, LLP and Thelen LLP, where he grew and managed all aspects of a multi-million-dollar cross-border finance practice. His career began as a venture capital lawyer representing transformative technology companies, including Blackboard Inc. and many of the outgrowths of Blackboard (WeddingWire/The Knot, Presidium, Starfish Retention Solutions, and others).
Nancy B. Rapoport

Nancy B. Rapoport

William S. Boyd School of Law

Robert J. Keach

Robert J. Keach

Verrill Dana LLP

Experienced and widely respected bankruptcy practitioner focusing on bankruptcy, reorganization, and workouts, representing debtors, creditors, creditors’ committees, lessors, and third parties acquiring troubled companies.

Education & Credentials

Adjunct Professor (Cross-Border Insolvency; Business Bankruptcy) at Boston College Law School

Recognition & Leadership

Author of several articles on bankruptcy and creditors' rights appearing in the ABI Law Review, Commercial Law Journal, ABI Journal, and other publications; regularly appears as panelist on national bankruptcy, lender liability, and creditors' rights programs; designated expert witness on fee-related matters in several cases

Professional Involvement

Admitted to practice in state and federal courts in Maine and Massachusetts; admitted to First, Second, Seventh and Eighth Circuit Courts of Appeals and the Supreme Court of the United States

Experience

Practiced before bankruptcy courts in Districts of New Jersey, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Delaware, Northern District of California, Eastern District of Pennsylvania, and Southern and Eastern Districts of New York; served as court-appointed fee examiner; served as chapter 11 trustee; represented court-appointed receivers in matters before state courts including Delaware Chancery Court
Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr

Legal Decoder

Joseph R. Tiano, Jr., Esq. is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Legal Decoder, Inc. After practicing law for nearly 20 years, Joe founded Legal Decoder because he saw that clients and their law firms lacked the analytic tools and data to effectively price and manage the cost of legal services delivered by outside counsel. He set out to build an intelligent, data-driven technology company that would revolutionize the way legal services from outside counsel are priced and economically evaluated. Legal Decoder’s data analytics technology is used in law firms of all sizes from AmLaw 50 law firms to boutique firms, in Fortune 500 legal departments, and in major lawsuits and Chapter 11 bankruptcy cases, including PG&E, Purdue Pharma, Toys R Us, and Rite Aid, where legal fees are scrutinized.

Education & Credentials

Joe received his J.D. from the University of Pittsburgh School of Law in 1995 and graduated from Georgetown University in 1992 with a Bachelor of Science Degree in Business Administration.

Recognition & Leadership

Joe has been recognized as a 2026 LawDragon Top 100 AI & Legal Tech Advisor, a 2025 ACC Value Champion, and the TVPi 2025 Pricing Expert of the Year. He is also an Adjunct Professor of Law at the Arizona State University Sandra Day O'Connor Law School, currently teaching a course on Artificial Intelligence & Legal Ethics to 2L and 3L students.

Professional Involvement

Joe is a prolific author, having (co-)authored a forthcoming West Academic textbook on AI and legal ethics and eleven law review articles published in scholarly journals. He has written articles for numerous blogs and other online media on substantive legal issues and the legal industry and regularly presents at CLEs and other seminars and courses on topics ranging from artificial intelligence, LegalTech, and legal data analytics to legal ethics and legal malpractice.

Experience

Joe practiced law for nearly 20 years before founding Legal Decoder. He was previously a Partner at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, LLP and Thelen LLP, where he grew and managed all aspects of a multi-million-dollar cross-border finance practice. His career began as a venture capital lawyer representing transformative technology companies, including Blackboard Inc. and many of the outgrowths of Blackboard (WeddingWire/The Knot, Presidium, Starfish Retention Solutions, and others).

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