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Exposing the Step 5 Job Number Crisis: From Administrative Stonewalling to Federal Court Reversal (Presented by National Organization of Social Security Claimants’ Representatives)

Uncovers critical statistical flaws in Step 5 vocational evidence, including the ORS methodology and simple probability method, while providing practical hearing strategies and federal court arguments to challenge unreliable job number testimony.

2025-11-07 08:00:00

1 hours

Program Details

2025-11-07 08:00:00

2025-11-07 08:00:00

1h CLE Credits

2025-11-07 08:00:00

1 hours

Program Details

2025-11-07 08:00:00

Program Details

2025-11-07 08:00:00

Over 1,000+ webinars

2025-11-07 08:00:00

1 hours

Course Overview

Challenging Step 5 Vocational Evidence

2025-11-07 08:00:00

Participants will learn to identify fundamental statistical flaws in ORS methodology and vocational testimony. These strategies build federal court records documenting due process violations.

Format

CLE Credit

1h CLE Credits

Level

Intermediate

Length

1

Key topics that will be covered

01
ORS Limitations
ORS data collection doesn’t require worker interviews, job observation, or in-person visits.
02
Critical Function
Job requirements performed less than 10% of the day are excluded from ORS data.
03
Independence Assumption
The simple probability method falsely assumes ORS variables are independent when they are dependent.
04
Missing Data
Many RFC limitations have no corresponding ORS data points, preventing valid statistical analysis.
05
Cross-Examination
Ask if the witness is a statistics expert and if methodology has been empirically tested.
06
Due Process
Document subpoena requests and objections to build federal court record showing agency opacity.

Program schedule

clock 8:00 am - 8:20 am EST

Due Process Failures in Step 5 Vocational Evidence

This session examines the fundamental flaws in the Occupational Requirements Survey (ORS) methodology, including non-standardized data collection, the false assumption of independence, and missing data points for RFC limitations. Attendees will learn why the simple probability method used to calculate job numbers creates a statistical crisis that can make vocational evidence say virtually anything.

Meghan GalloMeghan Gallo
clock 8:20 am - 8:40 am EST

Preserving Issues From Five-Day Letters to Memos

Learn practical strategies for building a strong federal court record, including subpoenaing vocational data in pre-hearing letters, objecting to non-expert statistical testimony, and crafting effective cross-examination questions. This session covers three essential questions to ask vocational witnesses and how to use post-hearing memoranda to challenge unreliable job numbers.

Meghan GalloMeghan Gallo
clock 8:40 am - 9:00 am EST

Leveraging Biestek and Administrative Law for Appeals

This session explores how to frame Step 5 challenges as constitutional due process violations when agencies fail to substantively engage with rebuttal evidence. Attendees will examine favorable district court holdings and Supreme Court precedent on agency discretion to build compelling arguments for federal court review.

Meghan GalloMeghan Gallo
Meghan Gallo

Meghan Gallo

GCC Law firm

Meghan Gallo

Meghan Gallo

GCC Law firm

Megan Gallo is a NOSSCR Board Member for the 8th Circuit.

Education & Credentials

She earned her undergraduate business degree from the University of Arizona’s Eller College of Management and her Juris Doctorate from the University of Arkansas School of Law in 2010, earning Dean’s List recognition. She is licensed to practice before the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Recognition & Leadership

She is recognized nationally in Social Security disability law, particularly on Step Five vocational testimony, serves on NOSSCR’s Policy and Governance Committees, and has mentored NOSSCR attorneys for several years.

Professional Involvement

She has also been one of the leading presenters and practitioners addressing statistical deficiencies in vocational evidence.

Experience

She is an experienced administrative and federal court attorney from Arkansas.
Meghan Gallo

Meghan Gallo

GCC Law firm

Megan Gallo is a NOSSCR Board Member for the 8th Circuit.

Education & Credentials

She earned her undergraduate business degree from the University of Arizona’s Eller College of Management and her Juris Doctorate from the University of Arkansas School of Law in 2010, earning Dean’s List recognition. She is licensed to practice before the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Recognition & Leadership

She is recognized nationally in Social Security disability law, particularly on Step Five vocational testimony, serves on NOSSCR’s Policy and Governance Committees, and has mentored NOSSCR attorneys for several years.

Professional Involvement

She has also been one of the leading presenters and practitioners addressing statistical deficiencies in vocational evidence.

Experience

She is an experienced administrative and federal court attorney from Arkansas.

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MI1.0
MN1.0
MO1.2
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MT1.0
NC1.0
ND1.0
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NM1.0
NV1.0
NY1.0
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OK1.0
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RI1.0
SC1.0
SD1.0
TN1.0
TX1.0
UT1.0
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Trusted by Legal Professionals

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