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GCs and Law Firm Attorneys: Perfect Together? (Presented by Above the Law)

Law firms and corporate legal teams explore collaboration challenges, AI’s impact, pricing models, and technology tools reshaping their partnerships.

2025-07-24 13:00:00

Program Details

2025-07-24 13:00:00

Program Details

2025-07-24 13:00:00

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2025-07-24 13:00:00

Course Overview

Strengthening Law Firm-Client Collaboration

2025-07-24 13:00:00

Participants will learn strategies for improving communication, managing costs, and leveraging technology between law firms and corporate legal departments. These skills enable more effective partnerships and better client outcomes.

Format

CLE Credit

1h CLE Credits

Level

Intermediate

Length

1

Key topics that will be covered

01
Communication
Effective collaboration requires proactive communication and understanding of business needs.
02
Cost Management
Budget predictability and scope management are top challenges in law firm-client relationships.
03
AI Impact
AI changes pricing and work delivery but legal services remain relationship-based.
04
Business Skills
In-house counsel highly value business and strategic advisory skills from outside counsel.
05
Technology Tools
Document management and AI-powered tools are having the biggest impact on legal work.
06
Knowledge Sharing
Time constraints and siloed teams are key obstacles to effective knowledge sharing.

Program schedule

clock 1:00 pm - 1:15 pm EST

Improving Law Firm and Legal Department Collaboration

This session examines the current state of collaboration between law firms and corporate legal teams, which survey respondents rated as middle-of-the-road. Panelists discuss how communication serves as the foundation for effective partnerships and explore opportunities to improve cost predictability and mutual understanding of business needs.

Bob Ambrogi.Bob Ambrogi.
Lisa LangLisa Lang
Jared ApplegateJared Applegate
Laura WenzelLaura Wenzel
clock 1:15 pm - 1:30 pm EST

Diverging Views on Client Relationships and AI

Explore the key differences in how law firms and in-house departments view pricing models, particularly around fixed fees versus the billable hour. This session also addresses how AI is reshaping legal service delivery while maintaining the relationship-based nature of the profession, and why transparency about AI use matters to clients.

Bob Ambrogi.Bob Ambrogi.
Lisa LangLisa Lang
Jared ApplegateJared Applegate
Laura WenzelLaura Wenzel
clock 1:30 pm - 1:45 pm EST

Critical Skills for Next Generation Legal Professionals

Survey findings reveal that in-house counsel prioritize business and strategic advisory skills far more than their law firm counterparts. Panelists discuss why developing business acumen is essential for in-house lawyers facing cost-center pressures and how law firms can help clients become better strategic partners through industry knowledge sharing.

Bob Ambrogi.Bob Ambrogi.
Lisa LangLisa Lang
Jared ApplegateJared Applegate
Laura WenzelLaura Wenzel
clock 1:45 pm - 2:00 pm EST

Essential Technology Tools Driving Legal Collaboration Forward

Both law firms and legal departments agree that document management and AI-powered tools are having the greatest impact on legal work. This session explores why technology capabilities have become table stakes for competitive firms and how AI will continue to drive changes in pricing models and service delivery.

Bob Ambrogi.Bob Ambrogi.
Lisa LangLisa Lang
Jared ApplegateJared Applegate
Laura WenzelLaura Wenzel
Bob Ambrogi.

Bob Ambrogi.

Above the Law

Lisa Lang

Lisa Lang

WHY THIS NOT THAT™ with Lisa Lang

Jared Applegate

Jared Applegate

Barnes & Thornburg

Laura Wenzel

Laura Wenzel

iManage

Bob Ambrogi.

Bob Ambrogi.

Above the Law

Bob is a lawyer and journalist who has been writing and speaking about legal technology and innovation for more than two decades.

Recognition & Leadership

He writes the award winning blog LawSites, is a columnist for Above the Law, hosts the podcast about legal innovation LawNext, and hosts the weekly legal tech journalists' roundtable Legaltech Week.

Experience

Bob has been writing and speaking about legal technology and innovation for more than two decades. He is also co-founder of the LawNext Legal Technology Directory.
Lisa Lang

Lisa Lang

WHY THIS NOT THAT™ with Lisa Lang

Lisa is an accomplished in-house lawyer and thought leader dedicated to empowering fellow legal professionals. She offers insights and resources tailored for in-house counsel through her website and blog, Why This, Not That™ Lisa actively engages with the legal community via LinkedIn, sharing her expertise and fostering meaningful connections.

Education & Credentials

Lisa's path to the law was anything but traditional. After six years of Army service, she attended law school at night while working full-time during the day as a paralegal for a mid-size law firm in Louisville, Kentucky — an experience that shaped her view that becoming part of a community is the fastest way to propel one's purpose toward success.

Recognition & Leadership

Lisa left Kentucky State University in 2022 after receiving an invitation to serve as Ohio Northern University's second Vice President and General Counsel in the institution's history. At Kentucky State, she served on the President's Senior Leadership team and stepped in as Acting Chief of Staff and Acting Director of Veteran and Military Student Affairs. Earlier, as an Assistant Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, she served as Acting Executive Director of the Civil and Environmental Division, managing five branches comprising twenty attorneys and sixteen legal support specialists. During her Army service, she was nominated by her BNCOC instructor for a Distinguished Leadership Award.

Professional Involvement

Lisa is an adjunct instructor in Transactional Skills (Contracting) at Ohio Northern University's Claude W. Pettit College of Law. As an author and speaker, she helps others strengthen their purpose and recognize that applying C-Suite thinking at the intersection of law and business is the path to success as an in-house lawyer.

Experience

As Vice President and General Counsel of Ohio Northern University since 2022, Lisa oversees the provision of all legal services to the University, has general charge of all legal matters pertaining to the University and its governing board, and advises the Board, its committees and officers, and the President on opportunities, risks, and the range of topics that confront the institution.

Before Ohio Northern, Lisa spent more than five years as General Counsel of Kentucky State University, a public HBCU, providing legal advice to the President, Board, faculty, and staff. Her portfolio spanned employment law and strategic human resources initiatives, management of federal and state civil litigation and administrative proceedings, oversight of outside counsel, responses to actions initiated by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Department of Labor, and legal support for procurement, contracts, and brand protection.

Lisa's nine years with the Commonwealth of Kentucky included service as General Counsel for the Education Professional Standards Board, its Executive Director, and its staff; as Assistant General Counsel for the Kentucky Board of Education, its Commissioner, and Kentucky Department of Education staff; and as an Assistant Attorney General representing state agencies and officials in civil and administrative actions before state and federal courts and administrative tribunals, including defending the Commonwealth against constitutional challenges to Kentucky's statutes.

Lisa spent a total of nine years at Woodward, Hobson & Fulton, LLP in Louisville — first as a senior litigation paralegal and then as an associate attorney specializing in insurance defense, professional malpractice, and commercial litigation. Her legal career began in the U.S. Army, where she served first as a legal specialist and then as a legal non-commissioned officer, deploying to Bosnia-Herzegovina to oversee legal activities for 1,100 soldiers in ten units and later providing legal support at Fort Knox to Brigade and Battalion Commanders for a training brigade of over 5,000 soldiers, supervising and training seven battalion legal clerks.
Jared Applegate

Jared Applegate

Barnes & Thornburg

Jared Applegate serves as Chief Legal Operations Officer at Barnes & Thornburg LLP, responsible for managing alternative fees, creating innovative pricing solutions, and improving firm economics.

Experience

His role includes guiding, advising and educating attorneys and clients on pricing of legal services, developing training programs on legal project management and matter management, and creating templates to assess profitability and related tools.
Laura Wenzel

Laura Wenzel

iManage

Laura Wenzel is a dynamic marketing leader with over 15 years of experience driving go-to-market success through strategic insights, customer research, and competitive intelligence.

Recognition & Leadership

Known for translating complex ideas into compelling stories, Laura is a passionate advocate for the customer and a champion of continuous learning and growth.

Experience

As Global Marketing & Insights Director at iManage, she empowers teams with data-driven guidance to position products effectively and communicate value clearly.
Bob Ambrogi.

Bob Ambrogi.

Above the Law

Bob is a lawyer and journalist who has been writing and speaking about legal technology and innovation for more than two decades.

Recognition & Leadership

He writes the award winning blog LawSites, is a columnist for Above the Law, hosts the podcast about legal innovation LawNext, and hosts the weekly legal tech journalists' roundtable Legaltech Week.

Experience

Bob has been writing and speaking about legal technology and innovation for more than two decades. He is also co-founder of the LawNext Legal Technology Directory.
Lisa Lang

Lisa Lang

WHY THIS NOT THAT™ with Lisa Lang

Lisa is an accomplished in-house lawyer and thought leader dedicated to empowering fellow legal professionals. She offers insights and resources tailored for in-house counsel through her website and blog, Why This, Not That™ Lisa actively engages with the legal community via LinkedIn, sharing her expertise and fostering meaningful connections.

Education & Credentials

Lisa's path to the law was anything but traditional. After six years of Army service, she attended law school at night while working full-time during the day as a paralegal for a mid-size law firm in Louisville, Kentucky — an experience that shaped her view that becoming part of a community is the fastest way to propel one's purpose toward success.

Recognition & Leadership

Lisa left Kentucky State University in 2022 after receiving an invitation to serve as Ohio Northern University's second Vice President and General Counsel in the institution's history. At Kentucky State, she served on the President's Senior Leadership team and stepped in as Acting Chief of Staff and Acting Director of Veteran and Military Student Affairs. Earlier, as an Assistant Attorney General for the Commonwealth of Kentucky, she served as Acting Executive Director of the Civil and Environmental Division, managing five branches comprising twenty attorneys and sixteen legal support specialists. During her Army service, she was nominated by her BNCOC instructor for a Distinguished Leadership Award.

Professional Involvement

Lisa is an adjunct instructor in Transactional Skills (Contracting) at Ohio Northern University's Claude W. Pettit College of Law. As an author and speaker, she helps others strengthen their purpose and recognize that applying C-Suite thinking at the intersection of law and business is the path to success as an in-house lawyer.

Experience

As Vice President and General Counsel of Ohio Northern University since 2022, Lisa oversees the provision of all legal services to the University, has general charge of all legal matters pertaining to the University and its governing board, and advises the Board, its committees and officers, and the President on opportunities, risks, and the range of topics that confront the institution.

Before Ohio Northern, Lisa spent more than five years as General Counsel of Kentucky State University, a public HBCU, providing legal advice to the President, Board, faculty, and staff. Her portfolio spanned employment law and strategic human resources initiatives, management of federal and state civil litigation and administrative proceedings, oversight of outside counsel, responses to actions initiated by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and the Department of Labor, and legal support for procurement, contracts, and brand protection.

Lisa's nine years with the Commonwealth of Kentucky included service as General Counsel for the Education Professional Standards Board, its Executive Director, and its staff; as Assistant General Counsel for the Kentucky Board of Education, its Commissioner, and Kentucky Department of Education staff; and as an Assistant Attorney General representing state agencies and officials in civil and administrative actions before state and federal courts and administrative tribunals, including defending the Commonwealth against constitutional challenges to Kentucky's statutes.

Lisa spent a total of nine years at Woodward, Hobson & Fulton, LLP in Louisville — first as a senior litigation paralegal and then as an associate attorney specializing in insurance defense, professional malpractice, and commercial litigation. Her legal career began in the U.S. Army, where she served first as a legal specialist and then as a legal non-commissioned officer, deploying to Bosnia-Herzegovina to oversee legal activities for 1,100 soldiers in ten units and later providing legal support at Fort Knox to Brigade and Battalion Commanders for a training brigade of over 5,000 soldiers, supervising and training seven battalion legal clerks.
Jared Applegate

Jared Applegate

Barnes & Thornburg

Jared Applegate serves as Chief Legal Operations Officer at Barnes & Thornburg LLP, responsible for managing alternative fees, creating innovative pricing solutions, and improving firm economics.

Experience

His role includes guiding, advising and educating attorneys and clients on pricing of legal services, developing training programs on legal project management and matter management, and creating templates to assess profitability and related tools.
Laura Wenzel

Laura Wenzel

iManage

Laura Wenzel is a dynamic marketing leader with over 15 years of experience driving go-to-market success through strategic insights, customer research, and competitive intelligence.

Recognition & Leadership

Known for translating complex ideas into compelling stories, Laura is a passionate advocate for the customer and a champion of continuous learning and growth.

Experience

As Global Marketing & Insights Director at iManage, she empowers teams with data-driven guidance to position products effectively and communicate value clearly.

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